I think it might be alright. But if it's something serious, isn't it the person who did it's fault?

I would think this is up to Admin Discression Kilsek and therefore cannot really be a votable poll.

I think once a warning has been passed it should stay that way. The point of the warnings is so members know they have done something wrong, so should be better behaved because of that...not just say, to get their warning bar up to full, so they have another three chances to cause trouble again.

Oh so once a person has a bad mark, they should be marked for the rest of their days.

No second chances? If no second chances are given the why ban someone, let them come back and then they become staff.

Forumotion already has a history of giving second chances. I am not saying that all warnings should be erased:

Dont get erased:

Direspect staff or member

Get erased:

Double posting
Moderating-this can be on both lists really it varies on if the poster was like "Dont used bold text" or "you shouldnt use bold text.

The later is the one that should be removed.

Fair point!

I am sure the staff have a system 'Kilsek', they do not necessarily need to show it to everyone via board postings.

Just assume they do have a system and that it works!

Then you won't have to worry about it.

I agree totally as my warning is a scamite power trip special, I happened to post as he was locking a topic yet didn't get the pop up.

Thats never been the case in the past kilsek, the only difference is that the warning system is now actually visable to members. Its not about second chances, you are actually given THREE chances in the first place before a ban is implemented. Perhaps though there could be suggestion to appeal warnings if you feel they were not warranted.

I voted yes. Good behaviour should be rewarded just as bad behaviour should be punished

zinex wrote:Thats never been the case in the past kilsek, the only difference is that the warning system is now actually visable to members. Its not about second chances, you are actually given THREE chances in the first place before a ban is implemented. Perhaps though there could be suggestion to appeal warnings if you feel they were not warranted.

Like the lame warnings we get for moderating?

yes like those.

I say no ...
1) when we had the system without images no-one had a problem with this
2) Once you abuse someone, or break the rules numerous times it should be remembered... just like a permanent record over at your police department.
3) There will be happy go lucky members that will break the rules disappear and come back in a while and have a green bar.
4) Or they'll be people that abuse members ... on the forum or via Pm they'll stack up a few warns , then they'll act all nice and kind to get back to green? I don't think so.

From what I recall these ranks were implemented because the members of the forum wanted to see their progress as warns are concerned. They didn't ask for a change in the system. This is just a graphic representation of what is written on the admin/mod notes box.

Jalokim wrote:
This is just a graphic representation of what is written on the admin/mod notes box.

So Jalokim, I was infact right?

Admin/Mods DO have a system which works, therefore we no longer have to wory about it and also can be assured that the system is fair, without needing proof posted all over the boards.

~DS~

So ok we get three warning and get banned. Then we come back and get three more chances?

NO!
don't you guys know the system?

we have a 3 strikes system ... 3 warns and you are banned, and 3 reps = 1 warn... but there can also be culminate warns for double posting and really small reminders...

if you are banned and come back... you have no 3 warn system... if the staff finds you then its reported and if a banned member comes back all he needs to do is step out of line once to get banned again.
if a banned member is not found then he basically gets 3 warns again, but the IP is checked by the staff,when a member is acting suspiciously. But if that member who was once banned behaves over a period of 1 month, he gets his bar back to normal as a new member.

thanks to the warn images we have a 3way safety insurance... all warns and bans are reported in a hidden staff forum, nextly that info is registered in your profiles and now on your rank images.

So why is an ex staff member not getting an immediate ban for his recent exploits?
As he was once a banned member.

The staff decided that due to the situation , and many other factor that came into play... the demodification of that staff member was an accurate punishment as voted by most of the staff.

After todays meetings and chats with the ex staff member, he decided to move on , so we have no need to take any more action, but his profile is marked as one without the 3 warn system.

Jalokim wrote:NO!
don't you guys know the system?

No we don't that is why we are asking! Jesus get a grip.

So special circumstances were given to scamite then? He was banned came back got to be mod, went on power trip banned people without just cause, disrespected a Global mod (although via IM) and he isn't banned again?

What our questions is:

We get banned for three warnings, thats it we are banned permanetly? Or for a certain amount of days?

scamites situation has been discussed and dealt with. If this topic brings all that up once more, i will lock it. If there is a complaint over how things have been done, there will soon be a thread to add your complaint to, until now, you would pm an admin.

And the answer to your question is: banned permenantly. There may be special circumstances, where a ban has been incurred unfairly that results in it being lifted.

Voted yes

oh... man
my post got delete somehow.... darn....
I wasn't shouting... sorry about the !

well all the important info was as follows...
that yes scamite had his own... set of circumstances... but we as staff have learnt our lesson and added a few regulations to staff applications.

apart from that I wanted to remind you kilsek that you are also running on special circumstances... your quota for reps and warns is off the scale and yet you are in the orange. but you are somewhat of a role model for members on the forum... you are able to bend rules without breaking them (too much) ... but sometimes you do push it...

edit... i also wrote that I thought you guys knew the system... i knew about it since i registered on this site...